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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 17, 2014 20:09:00 GMT -5
Dob already has Chris. "Lor-Zod"
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Post by C_Miller on Feb 17, 2014 20:10:39 GMT -5
I think it'll just be easier if I drop Artemis.
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Post by Drake on Feb 17, 2014 20:14:44 GMT -5
I think it'll just be easier if I drop Artemis. Are you sure? You had Artemis first... And Wachter, I don't know how I missed that. I'll work on that. I really need a bruiser character. Power Boy might work. I'll get back to you guys in a couple hours.
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Post by Drake on Feb 17, 2014 20:19:05 GMT -5
So, quick question, are you guys against using characters from alternate universes? Because I just had a kick a** idea but it involves an AU Super-character.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 17, 2014 21:34:27 GMT -5
Okay, now that Bob has his Superman stuff ready to go: Title: Ultimate Shadowpact Subtitle: There is no place so dangerous as a world without magic Heroes: Captain Marvel (Billy Batson), Detective Chimp (Bobo T. Chimpanzee), Amethyst (Amy Winston), Raven (Rachel Roth), Linda Danvers Villains: Lucifer Morningstar, Brother Blood, Trigon, Doctor Thaddeus Sivana, Frankenstein, Dracula, Sabbac (Timothy Karnes), Dark Opal, Qwsp Support: Etrigan (Jason Blood), Mr. Mxyzptlk, Freddy Freeman, Mary Bromfield, Black Adam, Isis Wallpaper: Shazam, Oblivion Bar, Sivana's Family, The Church of Trigon, Fred Thorpe (Since I'm claiming Dark Opal, a Gemworld villainess, instead of Queen of Fables, would that be enough to get me Gemworld itself as wallpaper? I didn't list it just in case it's not, but I'd still like it if I can.) This is approved with what I said before. You get Oblivion Bar but not characters like Nightmaster. HOWEVER Concerning Gemworld, in going through the records of our resident Amethyst fan... You can either claim Gemworld and get the Royal Houses of Gemworld (Opal, Sardonyx, Topaz, Turquoise, Garnet, Moonstone, Aquamarine, Ruby, Emerald, Diamond, and Sapphire) as wallpaper or vice versa. You do currently get House Amethyst in wallpaper by default though. Just make note. Now, you can do this now (between your Marvel Family, Demon Knights claims, and Trigon...you have enough characters to sacrifice one for a dib period) or you can wait until later since it too is in your dib period. Depends on what you need to start.
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Post by Drake on Feb 17, 2014 22:01:58 GMT -5
TITLE: Ultimate Outsiders
SUBTITLE: Who needs sidekicks?
HEROES: Bluebird (Harper Row), Ms. Martian (M’Gann M’Orzz), Static (Virgil Hawkins), Bunker (Miguel Barragan), Power Boy, Flamebird (Beth Kane), Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
VILLAINS: Mr. Freeze (Victor Fries), Maxwell Lord, Sasha Bordeaux, Ted Kord, Green Beetle (B'Arzz O'Oom), Checkmate, Caitlin Snow (Killer Frost), Amazo, Anthony Ivo, Tigress (Paula Brooks)
SUPPORT: Batwing (David Zavimbe)
WALLPAPER: Cullen Row, Marcus Row, The Hawkins Family
So, here's where my claims are probably going to get a bit controversial. After hearing there's no more Martian continuity I'm going all the way with those little green (and white and yellow) men. I've got a few ideas on how to handle the planet and its populace. If you guys really don't want me using J'Onn then I can use Ma'alefa'ak or B'Arzz O'oom.
As of now I'm just going with Power Boy since Wachter seemed to think it would be ok. He'll essentially be a new character in all but codename. I might replace him however if I can get Val, the new Kryptonian from Earth 2.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 17, 2014 22:02:40 GMT -5
Title: Ultimate GLC Subtitle: A New Era of the Lanterns Heroes: Simon Baz, Kyle Rayner, GLC Villains: Hal Jordan, First Lantern, Sodam Yat, Yellow Lantern Corps, Arkillo, Amon Sur, Mongul I, Mongul II, Krona, Apa ali Apsa, Paralax Support: Carol Ferris, Sinestro, Guardians of the Universe, Ion This is my final claims list. I cut the fat and redefined how my story is gonna go. Alright, Jordan, you’re in for a read and you might end up making one last claim that won’t really need too much of a discussion period. We face the unprecedented matter of having two Lantern titles at once. On top of that, you guys started asking about it and posting your claims at the exact time, meeting nearly the exact same set of requirements. Then just to be a kicker, it’s the continuation of an established story for both. The Admins discussed it over and over and over and over…. I’ll stop now. There are changes this time around. Changes made because there are multiple Lantern titles and there is the potential (currently) for even more. It’s not going to be to accepted with quite the same requirement as it was in the past when we dealt with Green Lantern because it was always one guy trying to do EVERYTHING. And lets face it, the Lantern mythos truly is as big as the universe. Lets start with your claims as is. Yellow Lantern Corps: You claimed a decent amount of them. Good on you. You get to use those members. It doesn’t give you access to characters like Fatality, Henshaw, Ranx, Starro, or any other named character who has been more than just a member. You get the nameless, you get the grunts. (And in addition to things below, we’d like you to be a continued open player should some New Guardians thing comes along and it fits within what you’ve established). Carol Ferris: In the context of Liquid’s GLC, Carol was just a civilian and I’m pretty sure she was Hal's wife by the return of Henshaw arc unless I read that wrong. She has no connection to the Star Sapphires. She has not been built to it. If you intend to have her be a Star Saphhire, you’re going to go about claiming them. Sucks, I know, but such is what happens when suddenly ever color/emotion has a Corps. Guardians of the Universe: Dude, they’re wallpaper within the context of your title. You can move them there if you’d like. FINALLYGLC: Because of the new circumstances we find ourselves in and Jelly (though unlikely to use given what I know of his title) almost fits the same criteria… We’re going to the backup system of claiming 3-5 named characters with this first batch under the GLC claim. After that, you might be able to get three more with every time you try to claim more GLs but we haven’t discussed that far ahead just yet. You still get to control the Green Lantern Corps and nameless cannon fodder. You still get to decide the direction the title goes in and how it affects your claims. You just don’t get the nigh limitless named characters we’ve had in the past. This means no Mogo, Kilowog, Arisa, Boodika, Green Man, etc… unless you actually put in the request for them. Part of the reason we're doing it this way is to better keep track of who/what your title uses. Reasons for this ruling:Besides Jelly’s title, you leave things open with your claims for other writers to come along to the cosmic sandbox part of the UDCU and Liquid had already started to set things up for other Corps. There could be a Red Lanterns the Return, Blue Lantern/St. Walker along the lines of Kung Fu the Legend Continues, New Guardians, the Star Sapphires, etc… Or the Indigo Tribe could show up in a Cosmic Blue Beetle. Or the L.E.G.I.O.N. takes on Larfleeze in the Veda Sector alongside the Darkstars. Cause it’s so big a universe, they might be capable of claiming a single Green Lantern space cop. (Jelly, if he claims another can most likely follow your 3-for-1). They’d be expected to work within whatever you have currently set up. This really is the first time we’ve ever had the Emotional Spectrum open to more than one person (not counting when Jross let anyone become a Lantern) and room for potential other types of Lantern titles not dictated by a single person. Expectations:In my experience with you since returning to the site, you have been nothing but open to working with others. It’d be greatly appreciated if you continue to do so. Especially where TheJellyFish is concerned. He has John. He has plans for Guy. He has his own Green Lanterns that are or were part of the Corps (as does miller with Alan Scott). Keep him updated. Don’t do anything that will make his title impossible before first working things out with him. Please. ==== Side ResponseI'm aware of your disagreement with Wallpaper requirements and it's relation to the Green Lantern Corps/Corps in General but it is safe to say that the requirements to claim the various corps have been the same since day one with Jross way back before you. They might have got a tad stricter in one or two instances (Red Lanterns expanding to multiple for example) as the comics continued to expand on what was at the time a newer concept but for the most part, they have remained the same. You are not different than any other writer who came before you for the franchise except for one aspect... We have TWO Green Lantern writers. And it all happened at the same time. It wasn't like one of you got a series off before the other and asked permission from the other if "they'd be okay." Simultaneous.
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Post by Drake on Feb 17, 2014 22:09:13 GMT -5
Actually, I'm going to stay away from Martian Manhunter. I'm replacing him with B'Arzz.
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Post by C_Miller on Feb 17, 2014 22:11:13 GMT -5
Would you be able to put the stars up again, Drake? I just want to keep track of who you have on loan/permission without having to compare two lists.
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Post by Drake on Feb 17, 2014 22:16:16 GMT -5
Yeah. No problem
TITLE: Ultimate Outsiders
SUBTITLE: Who needs sidekicks?
HEROES: Bluebird (Harper Row)*, Ms. Martian (M’Gann M’Orzz), Static (Virgil Hawkins), Bunker (Miguel Barragan), Power Boy, Flamebird (Beth Kane)*, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
VILLAINS: Mr. Freeze (Victor Fries)*, Maxwell Lord, Sasha Bordeaux, Ted Kord, B'Arzz O'Oom, Checkmate, Caitlin Snow (Killer Frost), Amazo, Anthony Ivo, Tigress (Paula Brooks), The Reach
SUPPORT: Batwing (David Zavimbe)*
WALLPAPER: Cullen Row, Marcus Row, The Hawkins Family
* = writers have given consent
I added The Reach. I figured Blue and Green Beetles were enough to claim them.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 18, 2014 1:02:42 GMT -5
Yeah. No problem TITLE: Ultimate Outsiders SUBTITLE: Who needs sidekicks? HEROES: Bluebird (Harper Row)*, Ms. Martian (M’Gann M’Orzz), Static (Virgil Hawkins), Bunker (Miguel Barragan), Power Boy, Flamebird (Beth Kane)*, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes) VILLAINS: Mr. Freeze (Victor Fries)*, Maxwell Lord, Sasha Bordeaux, Ted Kord, B'Arzz O'Oom, Checkmate, Caitlin Snow (Killer Frost), Amazo, Anthony Ivo, Tigress (Paula Brooks), The Reach SUPPORT: Batwing (David Zavimbe)* WALLPAPER: Cullen Row, Marcus Row, The Hawkins Family * = writers have given consent I added The Reach. I figured Blue and Green Beetles were enough to claim them. None of those actually need permission at this point but good to know. Worth noting other admins that Flamebird is a loan, not a permission. Girl is all my claim. The rest are all permissions that were done for etiquette reasons. Just so we don't end up getting confused on the number of claims.
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Post by jordan on Feb 18, 2014 1:42:36 GMT -5
Okay, so I have a lot to respond to so gimme just a moment.
I will continue to be an open player on that front. Also, I don't really need any of the Yellow Lanterns other than the ones I named.
Not a problem, I don't plan on using any of the Star Saphires.
I'll move them there, I just wasn't sure because of their most recent role as the Ultimate Villains of Geoff Johns GL run. Question: Does that wallpaper include people like Ganthet and Appa Ali?
So I'm trying to get this right. With the characters I have claimed (Sinestro, Hal, Kyle, Simon, the Gaurdians etc.) am I eligible to claim the GLC? And, at that, do I get any named wallpaper claims with that claim of the GLC, such as Kilowag, Mogo etc.? I just don't fully get this one.
Alright, I'll have to open a line of discussion with Jelly and figure everything out before moving forward and posting another final claims list.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 18, 2014 2:55:10 GMT -5
Okay, so I have a lot to respond to so gimme just a moment. You thought this is a lot? Imagine the discussion it took to reach this point with you constantly changing your claims on us. If you feel more comfortable using them as a claim (Guardians in general) in support then you're more than able but as they were wallpaper in the previous run and this is technically continuation, we thought it was fair. You do get the named ones (though I can't recall if Liquid set them up that way.... All I can remember is that his Guardians speak in rounds). No Krona. Probably don't have "Scar" unless you go back towards the Black Lantern claims. If you feel unsure always ask. And it's probably safest to list them out following the notice under claims Example: Guardians of the Universe (Ganthet, Appa Ali, Sayd).... I think that's like all. Haha Fair enough. This is the one restriction that makes this different than other Green Lantern titles that came before because of the nature of two titles plus partly cause the emotional spectrum was left open and partially developed. The standard requirement to get the entirety of the Green Lantern Corps (not counting unclaimed Human Lanterns) in the past has usually been 2 Earthlings, 1 Prominent Alien (Sinestro does not technically count towards this given he has his own CORPS and what not), and the GLC itself. A total of four claims. You have two humans. TheJellyFish has two humans. Even though he's unlikely to do so at the start of his title, it is possible for him to meet the same conditions and it would not be fair given the titles were claimed on top of one another to say he can't. It's something new we're trying out given this unusual situation in order to allow both titles. I probably didn't need to explain it again but I wanted to try to clear up anything that may have been left unclear. Lets get to what you need to do. Step by step Right Now you have: Simon Baz, Kyle Rayner, and Sodam Yat (Two Humans + Alien) plus you have Hal. Next You Claim: Green Lantern Corps/GLC Then You List 3 to 5 Green LanternsExample: GLC (Kilowog, Arisia, Green Man, Mogo) You now have those four characters. You'd still have dozens, hundreds, thousands of other Lanterns that do not have names/are not canon characters. You still get to decide the direction the Corps heads towards. You Post two issues and want to make more claims and add to your named lanterns except THIS TIME you only get three* Character: GLC (Boodika, G'Nort, Tomar-Tu) Title: Ultimate GLC Role: Support/Hero Tadah. Three more Lanterns, one claim. Jelly would be able to do the same if he starts fitting the alien requirement. If we have another Lantern title that pops up or another Cosmic Title, they'd be able to make SINGLE claims of GLC members after your dib period (or during if you're okay) though they should ask you first to know if there's some storyline requirement they gotta meet cause you had Hal and Sodam Yat kill all the Guardians so now the Green Lanterns are alone in the universe. *We haven't actually discussed what happens after issue 2 since we sometimes don't reach second issues. You might get three more named Lanterns, you might get another five. We'll cover it when we get to it if we get to it==== Like I've tried to stress. Your claims and the circumstances around your claiming is something we've never been in before. We're trying something different in order to better open up the Ultimate Cosmic side and making sure you can't tell Jelly no to his Green Lanterns. If it works, fantastic... We might start getting some people looking for cosmic titles. I know I still eventually want to go to space. If it doesn't then well, we've learned our lesson I've personally found you nothing but open to working with other titles so it is nice (I hope) to have someone at the helm who does not have an IRON CLAD GRIP over every single Lantern in every single color ever created. EVER. I mean, it almost makes me want to drop Secret Six and do an Ultimate Blue Lantern with a return of the Reds to threaten them.
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Post by jordan on Feb 19, 2014 1:18:57 GMT -5
Alright, this should be my final claims list for GLC:
Title: Ultimate GLC Subtitle: A New Era of the Lanterns
Heroes: Simon Baz, Kyle Rayner, GLC
Villains: Hal Jordan, First Lantern, Sodam Yat, Yellow Lantern Corps, Arkillo, Mongul I, Mongul II, Amon Sur, Parallax, Lyssa Dark, Ranx the Sentient City
Support: Carol Ferris, Sinestro, Ion
GLC Wallpaper: Mogo, Tomar-Re, Kilowag, Salaak, Arisia) *YLC Wallpaper: Ampa Nnn, Enkafos, Mallow Guardians of the Universe Wallpaper: Appa Ali Apsa, Ganthet, Lianna, Sayd
*Just to help keep track of the yellows I plan on using in case anyone else ever wants to use them.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Feb 19, 2014 16:55:56 GMT -5
Alright, this should be my final claims list for GLC: Title: Ultimate GLC Subtitle: A New Era of the Lanterns Heroes: Simon Baz, Kyle Rayner, GLC Villains: Hal Jordan, First Lantern, Sodam Yat, Yellow Lantern Corps, Arkillo, Mongul I, Mongul II, Amon Sur, Parallax, Lyssa Dark, Ranx the Sentient City Support: Carol Ferris, Sinestro, Ion GLC Wallpaper: Mogo, Tomar-Re, Kilowag, Salaak, Arisia) *YLC Wallpaper: Ampa Nnn, Enkafos, Mallow Guardians of the Universe Wallpaper: Appa Ali Apsa, Ganthet, Lianna, Sayd *Just to help keep track of the yellows I plan on using in case anyone else ever wants to use them. Alright. Aside from some misspellings, looks good. Someone will get your board ready to go.
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Post by jordan on Feb 19, 2014 17:18:36 GMT -5
Woo, glad that's finally over.
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Post by Drake on Feb 19, 2014 22:29:12 GMT -5
TITLE: Ultimate Outsiders
SUBTITLE: Who needs sidekicks?
HEROES: Bluebird (Harper Row)*, Ms. Martian (M’Gann M’Orzz), Static (Virgil Hawkins), Bunker (Miguel Barragan), Valor (Lar-Gand), Flamebird (Beth Kane)*, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
VILLAINS: Mr. Freeze (Victor Fries)*, Maxwell Lord, Sasha Bordeaux, Ted Kord, B'Arzz O'Oom, Checkmate, Caitlin Snow (Killer Frost), Amazo, Anthony Ivo, Tigress (Paula Brooks), The Reach
SUPPORT: Batwing (David Zavimbe)*
WALLPAPER: Cullen Row, Marcus Row, The Hawkins Family
* = writers have given consent
I think that should be fine.
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Post by buck on Feb 19, 2014 22:33:10 GMT -5
Drake would you mind pming the admins with plans for Checkmate just want to be able to straighten out on organizations and try to limit redundancy.
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Post by Drake on Feb 20, 2014 22:11:12 GMT -5
I'll do that tomorrow. I'm super busy today and most of tomorrow but I'll fit it in late in the night tomorrow.
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