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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 11:29:25 GMT -5
Frustratingly, I went into Maidstone to get my comics yesterday (while going into my wife work to hell with four hours of cutting out) and my comic shop hasn't kept them back for over a month! No new issues of Dr Fate, Constantine, Omega Men, Cyborg, Justice League Unlimited, or Midnighter for me! UGH. So frustrating.
Particularly annoying because I've been looking forward to getting caught up on Dr Fate and Constantine, I'm finding the more "indie" art styles to be really engaging, particularly Dr. Fate! Loving the Egyptian-American angle as well.
What else are people buying?
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Post by thejellyfish on Sept 27, 2015 19:44:36 GMT -5
Nothing at the moment. Looking forward Lemire and Smallwood's Moon Knight run. I'm trade waiting on Grayson and Omega Men.
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Post by Drake on Sept 27, 2015 20:06:23 GMT -5
Batman, the Robin titles, JL, Action Comics, Batman/Superman, The Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Red Hood/Arsenal, and Teen Titans. I'm slowly catching up on Grayson and I own issue 2 of Cyborg, but I won't read it till I get to issue 1.
I'm loving Batman, the Robins, Action Comics, and Justice League. What I've read of Grayson is great as well. The rest are okay to pretty good. I'd like to read Batgirl, more of Black Canary, and Martian Manhunter. I work at a comic book store now, so that shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully once I'm done with college apps I'll get around to it.
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Post by thetrueelec on Sept 27, 2015 21:28:17 GMT -5
I'm loving Batgirl, Black Canary, Gotham Academy, Bizarro and Starfire I've also picked up a couple issues of We are Robin to check out. I also just bought a bunch of Grayson from a comixology and am looking forward to that becoming one of my favourites based on what I've seen of it. From marvel I'm getting Runaways, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Gwen, A-Force, Deadpool, Moon Knight, (both the current run and the just announced lemire run) Squrrel Girl, and Thors. From Image its Trees, Wic Div, Saga, Rat Queens and Phonogram. I'm also reading Giant Days, Powr Up, and the Transformers books.
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Post by cross on Oct 7, 2015 16:29:45 GMT -5
Archie Clayton.
That is all.
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Post by thejellyfish on Oct 7, 2015 20:01:19 GMT -5
I've figured out what books I'll be reading monthly and which I'll be trade-waiting.
Moon Knight, Old Man Logan, and Black Panther get the monthly treatment. I'll just trade-wait for Scarlet Witch, Amazing Spider-Man, Invincible Iron Man, and Doctor Strange. Couldn't start reading them today because money.
Still holding out hope that Gambit is in a book post-Secret Wars. X-Men '92 doesn't count, that's not the Gambit I grew up with and the cartoon version's accent offends me as a Cajun.
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Post by adrini on Jan 22, 2016 14:35:54 GMT -5
So I've been pulling GA, BC and Bombshells.
BC has been a solid disappointment, on the line barely above canceling. But GA has been (dare I say it) actually improving. Go it. Bombshells continues to rock the house. we even have posters and mugs from it. It's that good.
But here come a new batch of #1's. Yay.........
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Post by thetrueelec on Jan 22, 2016 17:41:20 GMT -5
Keep in mind that rumour comes from bleeding cool so take it with a heaping pile of salt.
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Post by adrini on Jan 22, 2016 17:46:44 GMT -5
I will hope it is not true then.
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Post by Drake on Jan 22, 2016 18:25:33 GMT -5
With the new Didio and Lee tweets, I'm thinking it's true. BC isn't wrong all the time.
Anyway, I've hit a slump with DC. I read a decent amount of their titles (working at a comic shop as benefits), but only a few grab me like most of the Marvel titles I read. Batman and Justice League consistently blow me away, and Grayson, Superman: American Alien, and We Are Robin are all very enjoyable, but beyond that the titles are bad to decent.
EDIT: I haven't read Omega Men, Martian Manhunter, Dr. Fate, and all the other obscure DCYou titles that get so much praise. Some aren't my cup of tea (Batgirl, Prez), and some I just haven't had the time to jump on board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 19:04:30 GMT -5
Omega Men, Manhunter, Dr Fate, Cyborg and Constantine are all really good.
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Post by adrini on Jan 22, 2016 20:17:47 GMT -5
There was an article about comic shops just not moving DC or Marvel near as much anymore. Or rather another one. There's been a few now.
Still say the two line model is the best chance, what happens when you split the party.
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Post by Drake on Jan 22, 2016 21:15:21 GMT -5
The article has to be about DC, because Marvel's comic share has been on the up-and-up. In fact, comics in general have sold better this year. DC's down, though.
I read Cyborg. It's pretty good IMO.
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Post by adrini on Jan 22, 2016 21:23:51 GMT -5
I don't remember numbers but a number of the people mentioned that Marvel was slowing down.
Again, this is from interviews and might just be their stores. I don't claim to know.
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Post by Drake on Jan 22, 2016 22:35:58 GMT -5
Fair enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 6:50:59 GMT -5
I think that perhaps American comics are coming to a crossroads. The same with American TV (and British TV which seems to have followed its lead, annoyingly). They pitch to the same damn market, day in, day out, which is ever shrinking. If you look at something like the Europe comics, they don't bother with Superheroes or what not, they have War, Sci Fi, Cartoon, Romance, Erotica, Horror, Anthro. They have pretty much everything and their market is strong and lucrative.
Similarly, in places like India, their comics are Superhero based, in some instances, but they're based on the rich and beauty mythology of India itself, via Hinduism, Buddhisim and Islam. What it seems to me is that the nature of Superhero comics is being diluted down into this carousel of repeating themes, instead of mining out other genres and ideas. That's why Grayson is such a breath of fresh air, because there hasn't been a proper Spy comic for YEARS. We get stuck in Gotham, and Superman being a wee God and the like. It's the greatest hits, but like with most things, it's a law of diminishing returns. People want new stuff, but they don't want anything to be changed. They want reference points to the comics from 70 years ago, but don't want to be bogged down in continuity. They want the almost impossible, and they leave because they don't get new stories with old ideas because that's a bleedin' fallacy.
Marvel and DC need to look at Image, Darkhorse, and Heavy Metal. They need to have some guys go over the world and read the comics of the world to see what makes them work and sell and be. Like anything, it isn't an isolated industry or profession. It is a global market, especially with the films out there. Fact of the matter is, this is the first time we've had an on-going set of stories and characters for 70 plus years, where the stories have changed and mutated over 70 years. We have other stories like the Bible, or Illiad, but they don't change. Comics needs to.
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Post by adrini on Jan 23, 2016 9:01:49 GMT -5
This is the theoretical concept of narrative over time, and why I call for a multi line approach.
Some people read the same stories over years, the concepts working. You have to understand that to the American mind the "bad, 70 year old stories" are tied into the American myth is. Just like tall tales. They will always have a market and NOT having them is going to remove a market. However it's not the only market.
We do need spy thrillers and historical comics. We do need more diversity I story telling. There needs to be a variation in story telling, as there is on society itself.
But we do still read Gilgamesh and the Odessey. We still read the early poetry of China and take in the lessons of the Bhahavid Gita. These things are still with us. They just aren't the only ones.
The focus on this one market (males 18-45) I agree is a bad idea. It needs to change.
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Post by thetrueelec on Jan 24, 2016 3:08:08 GMT -5
I think comics are branching out to different demos, Ms Marvel, Spider-Gwen, most of the DCYOU stuff. Part of the problem with comics though is they can't really be too different, because the core fanbase is so small that if you can't get enough of them onboard the books not going to survive long enough for word of mouth to reach the people who want to/are just starting to get into comics. That's really the biggest issue with DC and Marvel they don't have the ability to release something great and let the audience come, if a comic doesn't have an audience by issue 3 it's not going to see issue 7.
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Post by adrini on Jan 28, 2016 13:15:17 GMT -5
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Post by thetrueelec on Jan 28, 2016 19:50:33 GMT -5
My take on it is that it's a couple of stores and really not a good indication of most of them. That's not even getting in to digital sales which are not as big a deal as physical sales yet but are still selling a lot, especially with the comics that are targeted at younger readers.
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