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Post by C_Miller on May 21, 2011 2:01:04 GMT -5
Okay. Two things. You need a subtitle and Kendra is currently claimed by Spiderfan for Dr. Fate. However, Shiera is still available. Otherwise, everything looks good and once those things are fixed, I'll approve it and make your board.
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Post by superecwfan1 on May 21, 2011 2:09:09 GMT -5
Okay. Two things. You need a subtitle and Kendra is currently claimed by Spiderfan for Dr. Fate. However, Shiera is still available. Otherwise, everything looks good and once those things are fixed, I'll approve it and make your board. Yeah I went back and edited it that since Kendra was gone as was Merlyn I wanted 2 changes. So I agreed about Sheira ...and I would like Etrigan the Demon. Hawkman subtitle - Who Wants to Live Forever |
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Post by C_Miller on May 21, 2011 2:16:23 GMT -5
Merlyn was gone too? I even looked at the Green Arrow title... *bad administrator*
Anywho, everything else looks good. It's yours. I'm really looking forward to this. I've always felt that Hawkman could be a great character, but is way too bogged down in continuity and retcons.
One request/suggestion/provision/whatever I will make is that you make good use of The Atom. I'm a little wary granting such a major, semi-non related character to a title. I'd prefer it if you used Atom from the start of your title rather than just sit on him for a while. But you did show interest in the character from our first coorespondance and this place isn't exactly hopping right now, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You don't have to follow this, it's just a suggestion.
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Post by superecwfan1 on May 21, 2011 2:24:37 GMT -5
Merlyn was gone too? I even looked at the Green Arrow title... *bad administrator* Anywho, everything else looks good. It's yours. I'm really looking forward to this. I've always felt that Hawkman could be a great character, but is way too bogged down in continuity and retcons. One request/suggestion/provision/whatever I will make is that you make good use of The Atom. I'm a little wary granting such a major, semi-non related character to a title. I'd prefer it if you used Atom from the start of your title rather than just sit on him for a while. But you did show interest in the character from our first coorespondance and this place isn't exactly hopping right now, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You don't have to follow this, it's just a suggestion. Well the idea is to spin the Atom out into his own title. To expose him in Hawkman (since its the classic old buddy team) then spin him out to his own title and adventures. The arc I have cooking with him is gonna suprise some people. |
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Post by C_Miller on May 21, 2011 2:28:01 GMT -5
Yeah, again, you showed interest and they are a classic team up. I hate absolutism, so I don't have a rule over who you can claim for what. On a case to case basis makes it easier and fairer. This works for me, but if you tried claiming Wonder Woman for a support of Hawkman, I probably wouldn't approve that. haha.
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Post by superecwfan1 on May 21, 2011 2:36:31 GMT -5
Yeah, again, you showed interest and they are a classic team up. I hate absolutism, so I don't have a rule over who you can claim for what. On a case to case basis makes it easier and fairer. This works for me, but if you tried claiming Wonder Woman for a support of Hawkman, I probably wouldn't approve that. haha. Ha ha... I understand. Wonder Woman is too valuable a character to be support really . |
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Post by thekillingjoke on May 21, 2011 15:21:35 GMT -5
Glad to see we're willing to take risks. After all, I always say we shouldn't let ourselves get too bogged down by nostalgia.
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Post by superecwfan1 on May 21, 2011 19:18:25 GMT -5
I didn't see Kalibak or Eclipso claimed. So I would like to claim those 2 for Hawkman .
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Post by Ryan on May 21, 2011 23:13:47 GMT -5
I'll take my chance and see what I can do with her.
Ultimate Zatanna
Tagline: The Mistress of Magic
Heroes: Zatanna
Villains: Dr Light, Felix Faust, Morgaine Le Faye
Support: John Zatara, Phantom Stranger, Enchantress
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Post by Toriach on May 22, 2011 1:36:52 GMT -5
Title Request
Title: Ultimate Manhunters
Subtitle: "No Evil Escapes The Manhunters!"
Hero(es): Kate Spencer
Villains: Dumas, Jean Paul Valley, Per Degaton, Starro, L.E.G.I.O.N, The Controllers
Support: Dan Richards, Paul Kirk, Mark Shaw, Chase Lawler, Cameron Chase, Manhunter Prime, Edward "Eel" O'Brien
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Post by Toriach on May 22, 2011 2:35:56 GMT -5
Title Request
Title: Ultimate Creeper
Subtitle: "You Don't Have To Be Crazy To Fight Crime But It Sure Helps!"
Hero(es): The Creeper
Villains: The Creeper, Gordon "Glorious" Godfrey, Doctor Thaddeus Beuregard Sivana, Mr. Mind, Count Vertigo, The Looker
Support: Jack Ryder, Vic Sage, Roy Raymond, Bethany Snow, Amanda Waller, General Wade Eiling, Edward "Eel" Obrien, Maxwell Lord, Buddy Baker
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Post by Ryan on May 22, 2011 8:33:01 GMT -5
I already had plans for Lana, but didn't claim her because I thought she fell under the wallpaper claims?
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Post by C_Miller on May 22, 2011 9:11:05 GMT -5
Lana does fall under wall paper claims. From here on out, I think we should claim our wallpaper claims, but I won't count them when it comes to totals. I also think I'm going to make a new rule of having one issue up before claiming a second title. I know I didn't follow that when I claimed JSA, but I have since dropped JSA and this rule makes sense. It's the same idea as putting a hold on character claims until you update your title a couple times. Having an issue up isn't that hard to do and it shows that you've at least put some kind of commitment to the board.
Also, I can't let you have J'onn J'onz. I think it's extremely fair to say that the Big 7 should at least have a year of the site being online before they are allowed to be taken as anything other than their own title. I also feel a little bit uncomfortable allowing The Question and Plastic Man as support, but I won't say no to those.
So yeah, toriach, I very much do appreciate your eagerness to become a member of the site, I will ask you to take Martian Manhunter off and take only one title for now. Thanks and I hope this doesn't completely throw you off.
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Post by thekillingjoke on May 22, 2011 9:29:36 GMT -5
It's always good to see new blood putting balls to the wall. The more chances we're willing to take, the more this site is going to pay off.
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Post by darthphere on May 22, 2011 10:47:48 GMT -5
I'm all for taking chances but at the same time I don't think it's fair to have some of the bigger characters as support. It doesn't affect me in anyway since I wasn't planning on using any of those characters but I think we have to think for the future as well.
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Post by Toriach on May 22, 2011 11:42:10 GMT -5
Lana does fall under wall paper claims. From here on out, I think we should claim our wallpaper claims, but I won't count them when it comes to totals. I also think I'm going to make a new rule of having one issue up before claiming a second title. I know I didn't follow that when I claimed JSA, but I have since dropped JSA and this rule makes sense. It's the same idea as putting a hold on character claims until you update your title a couple times. Having an issue up isn't that hard to do and it shows that you've at least put some kind of commitment to the board. Also, I can't let you have J'onn J'onz. I think it's extremely fair to say that the Big 7 should at least have a year of the site being online before they are allowed to be taken as anything other than their own title. I also feel a little bit uncomfortable allowing The Question and Plastic Man as support, but I won't say no to those. So yeah, toriach, I very much do appreciate your eagerness to become a member of the site, I will ask you to take Martian Manhunter off and take only one title for now. Thanks and I hope this doesn't completely throw you off. Hey FM, If I may, allow me to start by replying to the second part first... While the new rule does make sense and had it been in place at the time I joined you'd get no argument from me whatsoever. However since it was not in place at the time I was wondering if it might be possible to either be grandfathered in (a bit like zoning laws) or to have a temp hold on those characters until my first issue of Manhunters is out, and if I miss my deadline then they get released. Normally I wouldn't make even this small fuss but as I was working I came with some ideas for linking the two titles, including setting them in the same city (hence both having Eel in the supporting cast. Oh and also not related to any of the above but a thought that just popped into my head, I wonder if pitches for series shouldn't also include the intended location (A very few like Superman and Batman are self evident) to help keep a locale from getting over populated. Anyway I'll be awaiting final word and then will get to work. Thanks. |
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Post by Toriach on May 22, 2011 11:54:16 GMT -5
I'm all for taking chances but at the same time I don't think it's fair to have some of the bigger characters as support. It doesn't affect me in anyway since I wasn't planning on using any of those characters but I think we have to think for the future as well. I don't entirely disagree, however I do wonder if maybe it would be helfpful to amend the process to ask people to do proper "pitches" so that it would be possible to get a better idea of what the initial direction of a series is intended to be, instead of simply going off of mere name recognition. After all there were a lot of characters in the Ultimate Marvel Universe who were used as supporting characters who were more main characters in the regular MU. And sometimes vice versa. So my thinking is that what a person intends with a character should be given some consideration to balance the consideration given their status in the DCU proper. Having said that I mostly had claimed MM to tie him into the Manhunters legacy and while a bit bummed to lose him storywise it's not that jarring a loss. |
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Post by darthphere on May 22, 2011 12:57:09 GMT -5
I actually agree. This is FoxMulder's thing I just help out but a general idea of what was going on in your title may help the claims process. I mean honestly, your Manhunter book sounds more like a team book than a solo title, am I right? In that case, I don't think having Jon would be that big of a deal.
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Post by Toriach on May 22, 2011 14:55:13 GMT -5
I actually agree. This is FoxMulder's thing I just help out but a general idea of what was going on in your title may help the claims process. I mean honestly, your Manhunter book sounds more like a team book than a solo title, am I right? In that case, I don't think having Jon would be that big of a deal. Yeah basically the plan is to use Kate initially as the POV character and anchor and to expand bit by bit to bring in the more cosmic stuff and other members. Essentially I'm doing kind of a Manhunter/Darkstars mash up. But at the same time I'm willing to flex where needed. |
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Post by C_Miller on May 22, 2011 15:48:59 GMT -5
Okay, I'm having some discussions with darthphere my other admin over your claim for two titles. Until this gets figured out, the characters will be on hold (which should be tonight/tomorrow). So, I'm not going to rule one way or the other, but I guarantee we won't take the hardline approach. Because like I said, I'm glad you're here and eager. We need more people like that.
As far as J'onn goes, I'm going to propose a compromise. I understand your point about main characters being supporting in the UMU, but there are certainly differences between their approach and our approach. The goal there is to build the universe around 3 or 4 titles, while we are trying to get as many writers and titles as humanly possible to build a thriving community. J'onn is far and away the most popular character you claimed (even taking into account your main characters) and he could easily star in his own title. That's not to say that my basis for "denial" is that he can have his own title, because on the old UDC site we had a title for Body Doubles, Atomic Knights, Ambush Bug, and a lot of other extremely random characters. By that logic I'd have to deny 90% of the claims made. But I could easily someone coming in just to write J'onn, since he's really popular, being a member of the Big 7.
That said, if someone hasn't snatched him up for a solo title by August 15, he's yours no holds barred, no questions asked. I think that's fair. So yeah, that's my stance on J'onn and hold steady for the decision on the two titles.
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