Post by superecwfan1 on Sept 22, 2012 20:23:28 GMT -5
A poster wanted to know my long terms plans for the characters. So I decided to tell him. Included is all my plots and what happened. Even those plots I didn't do . Like the Shadow mini-series lol.
My original plans before JLA got pushed back was to do a tie-in into the Invasion arc we were gonna do with Darkseid. I had planted seed for Darkseid to invade with Kalibak showing up.
Before this however I had decided to relax and do some light hearted issues before the big Invasion tie-in at 24/25#. 21 was gonna feature a light hearted story of Sheira and Carter meeting as kids and how their personal history ended up as they did.
This would segue into 22/23 being a 2 parter and them in Egypt as Prince Khufu and Chay-Ara are featured and their 1st real encounter with Hath-Set. Plus fill in things there origin wise.
After the Future Darkseid issue I plotted and sent to Buck I believe. In it Sheira is gravelly injured during the Invasion and Hawkman blames himself . It was a very intense issue. Then Metron would appear and discuss his rallying everyone and why each person played a key role in who he went to in that one shot Buck did. (And I did as well)
Metron shows Hawkman a possible future that could have been "Future Darkseid" and shows that Hawkgirl helped stop it from happening in a way. Metron encounters trouble and realizes Hawkman needs to go on this journey and strands him in space.
#27 starts an entire new direction as Hawkman is stranded in space. The Emerald Empress is taking over the planet Venegar and the L.E.G.I.O.N scrambles to try and free the planet . L.E.G.I.O.N also finds Carter in space and takes him prisoner at 1st believing he's a war mongering Thanagarian and not believing at he's from Earth til he proves himself.
I introduce Vril Dox who.... is suffering from a head injury he took months earlier. He's not completely the Dox everyone remembers and Carter struggles to deal with him. Plus try and free the planet from the Empress.
Along the way Sheira wakes from her injuries and realizes Carter is gone. No one knows what has happened to him...but she knows he's not dead. Shiera soon becomes the hero on Earth and encounters the Fadeaway Man who is trying to get his cloak back.
The storyline and more was gonna lead to #50 where Carter has to get back to Earth.
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Green Arrow
I had only to #30 plotted for Green Arrow . I was behind on it a lot . In fact I did 2 arcs where I changed everything at one last second actually. In the 1st arc , Fyers was supposed to die as was the Terrible Toyman. But then I realized this was so irrational of me to do. Someone at the site may wanna use Toyman so I let him live and escape. Plus I really hate killing characters off unless its a BIG DEAL lol.
Another change was what I detailed to MRP in our exchanges there in the comments. MRP wanted to know in a sense I believe what Kazuo's motivation was. I had plans to hold it off til near the end of the arc. But revealed it sooner and used it better. (I gotta give him props for that one)
My situation with Brick was...he was the Kingpin. I was doing a homage to Kingpin aka Wilson Fisk. It wasn't good I'm sure but I admit I wanted to do that. (I find it pretty funny the CW series has taken that and has Oliver Queen facing against a Kingpin of crime in his city and they nickname him Robin Hood)
In all Brick was gonna hire more assassins (Spellbinder I believe I was gonna use) and at one point Merlyn shows up as an asshole that was better than Oliver but washed out of the NSA and that started a fued between the 2. Now he's gonna kill Green Arrow.
Roy Harper himself was gonna become the sidekick Oliver didn't want. It becomes a combative relationship where the 2 never get along. Steel pushes them together. I really liked making Roy a Navajo indian. I thought we need complete changes from the other DC ...so why not lol.
I had to shift the origin of Roy Harper sooner due to the fact a story I planned was vetoed down quick. You weren't here. But the story would reveal that Dinah Lance is in fact the daughter of the SHADOW.
That became a big sad debacle for me because I had plans to tie it into my GA series. A Shadow mini-series 1-4 I had all wrote and ready was scrapped due to a few complaints from an editor over my use of JSA characters. The idea was to also fill a role in the absence of Batman (the site had a Batman 200+ years in the future who was a vampire...i was thinking we needed a Batmanesque type...so I proposed a Shadow series to take his place now).
I redid the concept and decided to do it all in Green Arrow and only use 2-3 JSA characters from another writer. To make sure it all clicked better. That was gonna happen after Harper origin.
Dinah would confront Steel who would reveal a secret about her father. She demands answers and finally he reveals who her father is and why he's been gone for 26+ years.
That was gonna lead us into near #30.
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JLA -
Once guys started lining up for Justice League of America arcs . I wanted one at the end of 2013/2014. My arc was gonna be the return of Golden Eagle and he was leading an invasion of Thanagarians.
My JLA arc was gonna actually feature the 1st real death of a character and force the JLA to examine their views . In it , Hawkgirl is hurt and perhaps dead. Carter goes into a warrior rage and challenges Golden Eagle to a battle to the death.
I already had it plotted and one cool line of dialogue , "I let you live twice...no more. You will die today." Hawkman goes ahead and cuts off Eagle's head.
This horrifies the JLA. Because they hold life sacred and there is Hawkman who just beheaded a guy on the news. They hold a vote and Hawkman is asked to leave for awhile due to his actions.
It was gonna be a big issue with the JLA i felt. How do they handle what Hawkman has done.
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And those were my plans. All 2 years worth.
My original plans before JLA got pushed back was to do a tie-in into the Invasion arc we were gonna do with Darkseid. I had planted seed for Darkseid to invade with Kalibak showing up.
Before this however I had decided to relax and do some light hearted issues before the big Invasion tie-in at 24/25#. 21 was gonna feature a light hearted story of Sheira and Carter meeting as kids and how their personal history ended up as they did.
This would segue into 22/23 being a 2 parter and them in Egypt as Prince Khufu and Chay-Ara are featured and their 1st real encounter with Hath-Set. Plus fill in things there origin wise.
After the Future Darkseid issue I plotted and sent to Buck I believe. In it Sheira is gravelly injured during the Invasion and Hawkman blames himself . It was a very intense issue. Then Metron would appear and discuss his rallying everyone and why each person played a key role in who he went to in that one shot Buck did. (And I did as well)
Metron shows Hawkman a possible future that could have been "Future Darkseid" and shows that Hawkgirl helped stop it from happening in a way. Metron encounters trouble and realizes Hawkman needs to go on this journey and strands him in space.
#27 starts an entire new direction as Hawkman is stranded in space. The Emerald Empress is taking over the planet Venegar and the L.E.G.I.O.N scrambles to try and free the planet . L.E.G.I.O.N also finds Carter in space and takes him prisoner at 1st believing he's a war mongering Thanagarian and not believing at he's from Earth til he proves himself.
I introduce Vril Dox who.... is suffering from a head injury he took months earlier. He's not completely the Dox everyone remembers and Carter struggles to deal with him. Plus try and free the planet from the Empress.
Along the way Sheira wakes from her injuries and realizes Carter is gone. No one knows what has happened to him...but she knows he's not dead. Shiera soon becomes the hero on Earth and encounters the Fadeaway Man who is trying to get his cloak back.
The storyline and more was gonna lead to #50 where Carter has to get back to Earth.
*************************************************
Green Arrow
I had only to #30 plotted for Green Arrow . I was behind on it a lot . In fact I did 2 arcs where I changed everything at one last second actually. In the 1st arc , Fyers was supposed to die as was the Terrible Toyman. But then I realized this was so irrational of me to do. Someone at the site may wanna use Toyman so I let him live and escape. Plus I really hate killing characters off unless its a BIG DEAL lol.
Another change was what I detailed to MRP in our exchanges there in the comments. MRP wanted to know in a sense I believe what Kazuo's motivation was. I had plans to hold it off til near the end of the arc. But revealed it sooner and used it better. (I gotta give him props for that one)
My situation with Brick was...he was the Kingpin. I was doing a homage to Kingpin aka Wilson Fisk. It wasn't good I'm sure but I admit I wanted to do that. (I find it pretty funny the CW series has taken that and has Oliver Queen facing against a Kingpin of crime in his city and they nickname him Robin Hood)
In all Brick was gonna hire more assassins (Spellbinder I believe I was gonna use) and at one point Merlyn shows up as an asshole that was better than Oliver but washed out of the NSA and that started a fued between the 2. Now he's gonna kill Green Arrow.
Roy Harper himself was gonna become the sidekick Oliver didn't want. It becomes a combative relationship where the 2 never get along. Steel pushes them together. I really liked making Roy a Navajo indian. I thought we need complete changes from the other DC ...so why not lol.
I had to shift the origin of Roy Harper sooner due to the fact a story I planned was vetoed down quick. You weren't here. But the story would reveal that Dinah Lance is in fact the daughter of the SHADOW.
That became a big sad debacle for me because I had plans to tie it into my GA series. A Shadow mini-series 1-4 I had all wrote and ready was scrapped due to a few complaints from an editor over my use of JSA characters. The idea was to also fill a role in the absence of Batman (the site had a Batman 200+ years in the future who was a vampire...i was thinking we needed a Batmanesque type...so I proposed a Shadow series to take his place now).
I redid the concept and decided to do it all in Green Arrow and only use 2-3 JSA characters from another writer. To make sure it all clicked better. That was gonna happen after Harper origin.
Dinah would confront Steel who would reveal a secret about her father. She demands answers and finally he reveals who her father is and why he's been gone for 26+ years.
That was gonna lead us into near #30.
****************************
JLA -
Once guys started lining up for Justice League of America arcs . I wanted one at the end of 2013/2014. My arc was gonna be the return of Golden Eagle and he was leading an invasion of Thanagarians.
My JLA arc was gonna actually feature the 1st real death of a character and force the JLA to examine their views . In it , Hawkgirl is hurt and perhaps dead. Carter goes into a warrior rage and challenges Golden Eagle to a battle to the death.
I already had it plotted and one cool line of dialogue , "I let you live twice...no more. You will die today." Hawkman goes ahead and cuts off Eagle's head.
This horrifies the JLA. Because they hold life sacred and there is Hawkman who just beheaded a guy on the news. They hold a vote and Hawkman is asked to leave for awhile due to his actions.
It was gonna be a big issue with the JLA i felt. How do they handle what Hawkman has done.
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And those were my plans. All 2 years worth.
