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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 17:35:11 GMT -5
I'm working my butt off trying to put out another issue in Shazam, but I just can't seem to find any inspiration to write. I know what I should write, but I just can't get myself to do it. I think it's because I, personally, am not very attached to the characters or the concept and really only picked up Shazam because I found Geoff Johns' New 52 back up intriguing. So, I'm wondering...what should I do?
What do you guys think? Should I drop Shazam and write the title that I really want to write (Ultimate Titans)? Or should I continue on, push myself, and finish this long ass story I have planned?
I honestly have no idea. I feel like I owe it to you guys to keep on with Shazam, but at the same time I don't really want to write it, and that's causing my writing to be much slower and overly drawn out.
Seriously, what should I do?
Thank everyone who responds, Drake
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 17, 2013 17:59:48 GMT -5
Don't really have any opinion at the moment since I'm handling other matters so I'll try to respond later but if you drop Shazam and pick up another title....
<----- (points to avatar)
You'll have words with The Ulti-Monitor on everything that needs to be taken off the Continuity topics.
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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 18:02:27 GMT -5
Haha! Yeah! That was a lot of work I had you do!
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 17, 2013 18:09:45 GMT -5
Just to double check.
You do know that if you drop it, we can't allow Superboy or any member of the Superman family excluding Power Girl to be in Teen Titans, right?
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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 18:21:50 GMT -5
I was not aware of that, no. What's the deal with Superboy? Mez would no longer be attached, and it's not like I'm claiming the Big Blue Boy Scout himself. Is this rule in place because Superman is unclaimed? Or is it something else?
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 17, 2013 18:25:44 GMT -5
1. The New Writer will be allowed to decide how they want to handle the transition. -Continuation -Retcon -Reboot 2.All three options will have to account for Jack’s work in Ex Machina. 3. All claims from the Superman family will be frozen until a new claim is approved or two months have passed. This will extend to the major Superman villains as well. This doesn't affect any characters that have already been claimed. 4. No writer who drops a title to claim Superman will be approved, however, co-writers will be accepted for the title to circumvent dropping off titles. 5. Should the title not be claimed by May, we'll go from there on what should be done.
Since we don't know which path the potential writer of Superman will go, those that are attached to him are currently frozen. Best you could probably do right now is maybe an ultimatized Mon-El (don't hold me to it) if you want the powerset but from my talks with you, it's the character.
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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 18:33:51 GMT -5
Yeah, it is. Damn. That completely blows my plans. Connor (or "Chris," but it'd really be Connor) was hugely important.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 17, 2013 19:12:26 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more a Titans title this early seems like a bad idea.
It'd be like a Justice League Title. We're still developing the characters. Titans was often about the sidekicks coming into their own. Without the opportunity to develop, for example, the Robin in Ultimate Batman, Superboy in Ultimate Superman, etc. it seems to lose its point.
I know a more upbeat teen title is something that's been suggested, but Titans, Young Justice, etc. almost require using characters that should be developed in their home titles first.
I'd personally say keep trying to write Shazam. Try to at least finish an arc before dropping a title, just so we can get some continuity established and so the rest of the community can be positive that you won't drop Titans after a few issues.
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Post by Stardrifter on Mar 17, 2013 19:16:14 GMT -5
You have so much writing going on a month between so many sites that you really can't afford to be stuck on something you don't want to do. That said, i would suggest you finish your first arc of Shazam if you can before making a decision. I know personally how an finishing an arc that's not turning out how you like can make writing a chore, but once you finish and move on to the next story, you might be reinvigorated.
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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 19:24:04 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more a Titans title this early seems like a bad idea. It'd be like a Justice League Title. We're still developing the characters. Titans was often about the sidekicks coming into their own. Without the opportunity to develop, for example, the Robin in Ultimate Batman, Superboy in Ultimate Superman, etc. it seems to lose its point. I know a more upbeat teen title is something that's been suggested, but Titans, Young Justice, etc. almost require using characters that should be developed in their home titles first. I'd personally say keep trying to write Shazam. Try to at least finish an arc before dropping a title, just so we can get some continuity established and so the rest of the community can be positive that you won't drop Titans after a few issues. The thing is that most of the characters I was going to use weren't legacies, at least not in my plans. Superboy was, in a sense, but not entirely. I think I am going to try to finish my first arc, although I may shorten it. So, instead of the 8-9 issue plan I have, I may move it to 6.
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 17, 2013 19:28:11 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more a Titans title this early seems like a bad idea. It'd be like a Justice League Title. We're still developing the characters. Titans was often about the sidekicks coming into their own. Without the opportunity to develop, for example, the Robin in Ultimate Batman, Superboy in Ultimate Superman, etc. it seems to lose its point. I know a more upbeat teen title is something that's been suggested, but Titans, Young Justice, etc. almost require using characters that should be developed in their home titles first. I'd personally say keep trying to write Shazam. Try to at least finish an arc before dropping a title, just so we can get some continuity established and so the rest of the community can be positive that you won't drop Titans after a few issues. I disagree. For one, you don't need to use those specific characters. And second, it's Ultimization. You could make it so none of them are sidekicks. You could change characters origins. I know different people have different ideas about UltimateDC ie: I considered continuing Supergirl into the new universe even if there was no Superman but a few others advised against it, but to me personally it means we don't have to stick with previous ideas such as the team being sidekick based.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 17, 2013 19:40:45 GMT -5
Yeah. With that kind of thinking, the board never would have seen the awesomeness that was the Spoilers. Part of the magic of the Old Universe was having to get creative and think outside of the box.
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 17, 2013 19:43:02 GMT -5
Same for Superboy really. You could look for other characters you could use as stand-ins and change them to fit.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 17, 2013 19:49:52 GMT -5
Fair enough.
It's just one humble Disciple's opinion.
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Post by Drake on Mar 17, 2013 20:07:37 GMT -5
I've come up with a solution. I'm going to ask the admins to change Shazam to a miniseries (I'll give them my modified claims list so a number of characters will be open). That way I will have plenty of time to plan out UTT and figure out what I want to do, and also I will get the story firmly in continuity.
Thanks everyone!
Wachter, I'm going to pm you soon with the updated claims list. Could you please move my story to the miniseries section. Thanks.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 17, 2013 20:24:37 GMT -5
Uh...okay. (to the PM)
And no to the moving the story. I can't do that. Against the rules. But I can take whatever your case is to the others.
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Post by Stardrifter on Mar 17, 2013 20:33:35 GMT -5
If you really want to go that route and keep it within the rules, consider making Billy a member of the Titans. He is a teen after all. By my understanding of the rules, you'd have to keep the claims of the characters you used in this first arc, but you could drop the ones you didn't and then use this arc of Shazam as a lead in to Titans.
Just a suggestion.
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 17, 2013 21:18:47 GMT -5
That could work
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Post by Drake on Mar 18, 2013 10:07:17 GMT -5
I suppose I could do that. But what is the deal with the rules? I don't mean that in a bad way, but what does it say about series being changed to minis? Just curious as to that and why it is that way.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 18, 2013 10:28:21 GMT -5
Characters can only be claimed for an ongoing, not a mini. And I can't do anything until we know what you have planned. If it's something like Star suggested, it might be possible. If it's not then like I said, we need to know and go from there. We can hardly force people into writing a title they don't want to.
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