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Post by Drake on Mar 12, 2013 10:58:40 GMT -5
I hate to be the guy who asks this, but what's going on with Superman? Is Mezz's work in continuity? And either way, is Superman claimable?
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 12, 2013 11:53:45 GMT -5
The problem is he hasn't finished his story, so it would force somebody to jump in and finish it if it's still in continuity. Personally I think it should be up to the person or persons who pick up Supes if Mex's work is in continuity.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 12, 2013 12:06:44 GMT -5
He dropped it a day and a half ago. Wasn't moved to Dropped Titles until a day had passed. It's in Dropped Titles because one way or another, it's not going to be considered an active title for now. And that's about all I know.
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Post by Ultimate Silentking on Mar 12, 2013 12:18:31 GMT -5
I personally think that at least some of Mez's work should be in continuity. He put out eight issues and there is suppose to be only one issue left in this long story arc. It would be a major "fuck you" to Mez to ignore all of his work on Supes just because you don't want to work on a single issue that wasn't part of your ideas. Plus, this would demerit the site's goal if we chose to take Mez's work out of continuity. I mean, what is the point on writing here if no matter how many issues you put out, say it is part of a long story arc, there is a chance it gets taken out of continuity. Whoever takes over Superman can also ask Mezzaro (I am working with his brother on my Marvel site, so I can contact him that way in case there is no other way to contact) how he wanted issue 8 to end and then you can go from there. But this is all just my opinion and it is up to the admins on how this should be dealt.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 12, 2013 12:43:42 GMT -5
Continuity works differently in the new universe after what happened in the last especially given what I had to do personally with finishing off Star's Superman arc for an easy handoff and the admin discussion on how to salvage the Vampire Batman.
Each title is considered in continuity from the start but the effect of that continuity has been left open until we reached a moment like this. It's more of a measurement than a specific issue count currently. So now there is an ongoing discussion about what should be done about the title.
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Post by Drake on Mar 12, 2013 12:49:27 GMT -5
The problem with keeping it in continuity is that all of his issues have been building up to a larger story. He had a planned out 100 issue epic. We'd discussed it. Now, his work, the themes and ideas he was building, well...it may not match with the author's view of the series. That's not to say it couldn't. It would just be...difficult.
Ultimately all of this is up to the admins. However, I would like to request that the title is left open and not given away behind everyone's backs like Batman.
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Post by C_Miller on Mar 12, 2013 12:51:50 GMT -5
This is a different situation than Batman. But it is being discussed now in the admin forum and when we reach a decision we will let the rest of the people know.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 12, 2013 13:40:26 GMT -5
Well, this is the sort of thing that the actual DC editors have to deal with on a regular basis. A title gets dropped for whatever reason, and someone has to pick up what's left.
I agree that 8 issues is enough that what has happened should really stay in continuity. Whatever current plot is going on should probably be wrapped up in the near future, and any overarching plots (Zod for example) can be left to the discretion of whomever picks it up.
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 12, 2013 13:49:57 GMT -5
I mean, what is the point on writing here if no matter how many issues you put out, say it is part of a long story arc, there is a chance it gets taken out of continuity. Just speaking for me, I think finished stories should be in continuity, but if something is half finished it's understandable why a new writer may want to scrap it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 15:53:47 GMT -5
Well, this is the sort of thing that the actual DC editors have to deal with on a regular basis. A title gets dropped for whatever reason, and someone has to pick up what's left. I agree that 8 issues is enough that what has happened should really stay in continuity. Whatever current plot is going on should probably be wrapped up in the near future, and any overarching plots (Zod for example) can be left to the discretion of whomever picks it up. The difference being DC editors would have had the chance to approve the initial pitch before it launched, and helped steer the direction of the story as it went along, plus they have the ability to pay someone to work with another's ideas instead of the new writer just putting forward their own. Part of the appeal of fan fiction is getting to explore your own ideas on a character freed from the constraints of what someone else thinks the character should be. Piking up someone else's threads is always a dodgy proposition in fan fiction, even in places with a shared continuity like our own. I don't have an answer, I see both sides of the coin but I think a lot is going to come down to what whoever takes over the book wants to do as well. It's not just plot, its characterization of not only Superman, but each member of the supporting cast that the new writer is going to have to work with, and that is a lot harder to reconcile with one's own vision and a lot harder to morph believably if you want something other than what has been established. So all I can say is be patient. Even if the title were up for grabs immediately, there is only 1 writer on site who is currently eligible to claim a second title, so unless he or a new writer shows up wanting this book, we do have some time to work out how to proceed. -M |
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Post by Stardrifter on Mar 13, 2013 16:26:46 GMT -5
So I have a somewhat related question. My next Aquaman arc is going to take place in Metropolis. I kinda planned to reference Superman. Him being in Metropolis is motivation for someone. Should I rethink this or should it be fine to mention Superman being in Metropolis?
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Post by C_Miller on Mar 13, 2013 16:42:47 GMT -5
I would say that it's okay as long as you keep it vague. I believe Jack has referenced Superman once or twice and the new set of rules that deals with the Superman title is that a new writer has to be consistent with Jack's take on Metropolis.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 13, 2013 17:20:42 GMT -5
Very, very vague. Jack referred directly to Superman with the name and all, only once in a comment that is throwawayable. The more direct requirements of the Superman continuity relate to Luther. There's no stopping the next writer from making Superman an older hero who inspired a generation alongside Sentinel with the one the cast of Ex Machina referring to being Chris or Kon.
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Post by jackalope on Mar 19, 2013 7:33:20 GMT -5
Mez kindly gave me a run down of what he was planning after he dropped Superman. If wanted I could attempt to finish #8- but I doubt it would be particularly good & I have no desire to take on the title. I really do hope someone comes along and grabs it, as I'm keen to have an active Superman in Metropolis, or at least in the world.
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