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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 7, 2013 18:42:08 GMT -5
Whelp, for the March Admin Agenda, I may have failed to get permission to bring the idea of a team-up title to you guys to do on the side but I managed to secure one that's a tad more gruesome. The idea here is to bring back something that was tried to do with Dial H in the last universe but on a smaller scale and with an entirely different purpose/storyline behind it. A serial killer is on the loose in the UDCU and its up to you guys to stop him! This is a discussion so if you have ideas on how to make it better, then by all means suggest it. We're to work it out and if there's enough interest, we'll even do it. Basic Plot (Working Idea) A serial killer has returned to the UDCU for the first time in years. He has no pattern in his victimology. He will strike anywhere and in any form whether it be a simple assassination to a rampage and spree. His only signature is that every kill, his every act has something to do with the calender, either reenactments or perversion of historical/mythical events to holiday themed murders. He's methodical and this ain't his first rodeo. Example of types of killings: Feb: Repeat of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, Couples killed with their hearts left in each others hands. Give Lincoln a birthday present by acting out his murder. March: Victims killed by snakes. Victims might be whatever is the political term to call short people. Nov: Remember, remember the fifth of November. December: Stabbed with candy canes. Where You Guys Come InEach issue will cover the month the killer spends in whatever city. He might make only a single kill and you're reacting to that kill or he might make numerous ones and you try your hardest to catch him, to predict his move. You can make your hero the protagonist, or the cops of your city (such as Jack and the Metropolis PD), or just general citizens/characters within your part of the sandbox as they live through these grisly murders about them. Hell, I could see an entire issue taking place in front of the TV with a character just watching the reports and wondering what the world is coming to. What's in it for me?General world building, a chance to expand on your supporting cast to your cape (if you have them), a chance to try out a different story that wouldn't usually fit within your title, etc... If you use your cast, there's no reason it can't count towards your deadline for the month and will even score you brownie points. Might even get some sort of perk if I can get the other admins to sign off on it. But right now, it's too early to talk about rewards. If there's interest, we'll find some way to encourage participation. What if I don't have a title or characters to use?You can still participate if you'd like. Can always ask to use someone's city or use a random city of your own. I'm fine with offering up the Haven PD personally. Why isn't this the first time?No particular reason and subject to change. I simply believe it offers up more drama if characters such as the Sentinel or Henry Allen had already faced off against the murderer and failed. How will it work?Won't be too much oversight. Probably someone who might say to leave this clue or to keep the writers connected by saying what happened in a different month. You volunteer for an issue. How ever many months/issues are seen will be determined by the number of volunteers and if they're interested in more than one month. Will we catch the killer?That's actually open for debate. I'm fine with the killer going free. I'm fine with him getting caught. If it's the latter, I thought it'd be nice to vote on the most interesting "month" and that writer gets the chance to go against the Killer one more time. ====X==== There you have it, folks. Express interest, Discuss ideas. Ask questions. Whatever. |
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Post by liquidsword34 on Mar 7, 2013 19:04:01 GMT -5
I'd be interested
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Post by Stardrifter on Mar 7, 2013 19:37:28 GMT -5
I like the idea and would be open to it. As far as how it all ends, I'd say once all the month issues are done, those interested in doing the wrap up issue could be put in a poll and the winner could write the final issue. Or depending on how many writers are involved, we could all get into a chat of some form and hammer out the plot together and one person writes it.
I see a lot of potential for this idea. Once all the writers are signed on and months assigned, we could even work out some crossover. Say for example it goes...
March = Flash
April = Superman
May = Aquaman
The March issue could end with Flash on his heels, leading to the April issue being a Flash/Superman team up. Then that might end with both heroes losing the trail, but perhaps Lois finds it and follows into the May issue and meets Aquaman.
Just an example, but shows with some work and communication between writers, this could be an awesome exercise. It really will come down on communication to keep things consistent. Perhaps, dare I say, an overall editor who has to approve each issue first to make sure there are no discrepancies?
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Post by unchartedfan1 on Mar 7, 2013 22:04:32 GMT -5
I like the idea, especially when you add Star's ideas to it.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 7, 2013 22:11:44 GMT -5
I'm torn. I really want to participate in these crossover ideas, but I need at least a few more chapters before UWW can even consider crossing over.
It's especially interesting because a lot of the calendar references have etymological roots in Greek, so there would be a ton of plot potential there too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 22:23:05 GMT -5
Just go Norse with the days of the week, it offers so much potential-hammer someone to death on Thor's Day (Thursday), pluck their eyes out of Wotan's Day (Wednesday), etc. Tyr's Day, Freya's Day etc. all offer gruesome possibilities  -M |
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 8, 2013 1:14:20 GMT -5
I'm torn. I really want to participate in these crossover ideas, but I need at least a few more chapters before UWW can even consider crossing over. It's especially interesting because a lot of the calendar references have etymological roots in Greek, so there would be a ton of plot potential there too. Take a later month? Have it be someone other Diana? When you think about it, it's still going to be a bit before we can get the ball rolling and if we somehow end up employing Star's idea, I get to point and laugh at the other admins for thinking a team-up is too early. Unless something happens to totally screw with your status quo, nothing really stops you from picking a month that you know WW will not be within her own plot line since it's not going to be taking place in your series but rather the Limited Board. No different than standard comics with that. If we do it, and depending on when we have it take place, I could go Jason and Kate one month. Haven's Finest when killer returns. And finish it off with next gen hero/sidekicks towards the end of the series. That said, this was designed as something fun that you could do with your hero just as well as you could do with your supporting cast or even villains in the case of Flash. Could always use it as a chance to establish your Gateway City characters in a story without WW. And it can take place at any time. |
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 8, 2013 3:14:02 GMT -5
Now that I have more time to reply... I like the idea and would be open to it. As far as how it all ends, I'd say once all the month issues are done, those interested in doing the wrap up issue could be put in a poll and the winner could write the final issue. Or depending on how many writers are involved, we could all get into a chat of some form and hammer out the plot together and one person writes it. Certainly one possibility and one I'm a fan of. That's actually more overlap than I intended for my pitch but it's not something I'd be opposed to see and it's one of those situations that could end up being quite interesting where the heroes don't catch the killer and are instead called away to more "super" matters leaving the street character to follow it through to the next month. How many people we get interested, how much communication we get going, just how much of a overall plotting we handle either as a group or an overseer does... All determines just what sort of story the Calendar Killings become. At the very least, we should be able to set things up to lead into the next month whether its an in universe clue as to the next city or we literally see the torch passed through something like say Lois or Jack Ryder following it through to the next month. One thing we should consider is the motivation. Obviously the killer has a signature but as of now, I'm avoiding calling it the Ultimate Calendar Man (though the idea was inspired by a mixture of him and Holiday), and we'd need to answer one simple question... Is he putting himself in opposition of the City or the hero(s)? In my mind... That's actually quite important. This guy wouldn't be a super criminal (though he'd be capable of pulling off outlandish things) so when he ends up in a major city that has the Sentinel/Green Lantern, or Flash, or even Superman... Is it just a coincidence that the hero is there or is he actively trying to prove that not even the fastest man alive is capable of stopping him? And if it's against the heroes, then chances are he might even design the killings around them such as the Greek influence for when he targets Gateway. Or does he ultimately just not care? May not be too important at the "start of the year" and that's where we can have it be more of street level with the likes of police departments, reporters, etc... But by a few months in, people are going to realize that "he's back" which in turn should get the attention of those of a higher pay grade. |
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 19, 2013 7:42:09 GMT -5
Anybody have suggestions for May (and potentially April and Feb)? Scene takes place in May as the protagonists are the trail towards June. Have the June Idea. Have the March Idea. Got nothing for May.
I'm working with Liquid to do a teaser scene during the last spree and it deals with that timespan.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 19, 2013 8:47:17 GMT -5
Anybody have suggestions for May (and potentially April and Feb)? Scene takes place in May as the protagonists are the trail towards June. Have the June Idea. Have the March Idea. Got nothing for May. I'm working with Liquid to do a teaser scene during the last spree and it deals with that timespan. Well, I'm still unsure if I'll be able to participate in this (there a lot less mythological references in the months than I expected other than March and June), but as for suggestions... Thematically speaking, I think April would be the best time to actually start this, since April was the original start of the new year. The only holiday that comes to mind is April Fool's Day, which could result in death(s) that seem to be the result of practical jokes gone awry until further investigation. It could potentially lead the investigator falsely towards villains like Joker, Prankster, or Toyman until they discover otherwise. The holiday that most comes to mind for May is Cinco de Mayo. Perhaps the killer decides to get a little more cultural. (Though on a more obscure holiday note, I did find out that May 4 is Star Wars day.) |
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Post by adrini on Mar 19, 2013 11:25:02 GMT -5
'll need to get another four chapters out first, but I like it.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Mar 19, 2013 14:53:15 GMT -5
Bob, we're still at least one month away before this comes to fruition. We have kinks to work out, months to assign, more discussion to be had since I hope this was just lost in the general hubbub that's been going on instead of a lack of interest and even if in the end, you can't participate as a writer, you can still continue to aid with the discussion like you just did.
In looking at the calender for the year this happened, there's also Easter for April. And in looking farther... You have May too for Greek myth.
"The month May was named for the Greek goddess Maia, who was identified with the Roman era goddess of fertility, Bona Dea, whose festival was held in May. Conversely, the Roman poet Ovid provides a second etymology, in which he says that the month of May is named for the maiores, Latin for "elders," and that the following month (June) is named for the iuniores, or "young people" (Fasti VI.88)."
Then you have July and August partially with the Roman influence to that. Heh. July killings should definitely be by stabbing the victim in the back numerous times with multiple knives.
There's also Golden Week for May if I wanted to go with holidays but I did see an interesting point on the Kentucky Derby... Still open to ideas though. The idea of horses being used as murder weapons doesn't really fit into the 2000 Spree. But it did give me an even better theme for if we have May open for the present spree... TOWEL DAY!
A thing to remember is these killings don't have to be limited to holidays. The plot of the short deals with what might happen in June based around the idea of a historical anniversary/myth.
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Post by Stardrifter on Mar 24, 2013 19:53:38 GMT -5
May: Mothers Day
The killer picks a mother whose kids dont care for her and kills her. He leaves the body set up in bed with a breakfast tray and full breakfast. Flowers are set on the nightstand. A Mothers Day card with the killers name(pseudonym) signed.
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Post by Stardrifter on Apr 6, 2013 15:01:04 GMT -5
Any news on this? I really like the idea. Looking forward to it.
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Post by hitmonkey on Apr 6, 2013 21:55:39 GMT -5
I'm interested in this, it'd give me an opportunity to focus one some of the reporters.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Apr 7, 2013 5:26:31 GMT -5
Any news on this? I really like the idea. Looking forward to it. Oh. Even though it's not officially in continuity (though I will/we will probably modify it to be so when it gets underway... or at least the events will be referenced), I was waiting on me to introduce Creeper later this month before releasing the prequel/teaser. We can start brainstorming it and setting things up any time now though. There was enough interest to merit that. I can create a hidden board here, get permission for a password protected board, or create a google docs so we can do so in secret. Or we can work on the basic framework here and when the project gets underway, move it elsewhere so as to not spoil those who aren't taking part. |
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on Apr 30, 2013 9:47:25 GMT -5
Creeper debuted in Haven 3.
The Prequel/Prologue will be up soon. Which works perfectly since it takes place in May early 2000 and deals with the clues leading the June killings.
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on May 1, 2013 22:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by The Wonderful Wachter on May 4, 2013 22:50:28 GMT -5
Less than 12 hours before the UDCU officially turns 2.
I'll most likely post the teaser before then but it still counts as the present. A gruesome present that introduces us to the site's single board claim now that Authority is gone with the wind.
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