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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 17:05:49 GMT -5
If I may, I'd like to suggest something similar to One Year Later as opposed to a full reboot. With all the titles on the site picking up after a time skip. Those staying on their titles can continue telling their story, but oncoming writers can claim new or inactive titles without necessarily being 100% bound to an existing status quo.
Meanwhile, the event story can still happen if writers want to work on that as well. A huge epic leading up to a massive shakeup of the site could be a ton of fun.
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Post by Drake on Aug 3, 2015 17:16:59 GMT -5
That's a great idea! I definitely think it would provide a launching point for things that the site needs. However, with the type of story Knights is, I'd need to refrain from a One Year Later scenario. It actually takes place over an entire year, so maybe it could be the "end" of the old era/previous jumping on/off point and Justice League could kick off the new era.
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Post by adrini on Aug 3, 2015 17:17:51 GMT -5
He burned out, it happens. If it does to you, please, just say so. We get it.
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Post by adrini on Aug 3, 2015 17:35:37 GMT -5
There are good ideas here. Firstly people (like Drake and I, I don't know about others) need to finish some things before we do anything. But I'm all for building ideas and finding something fun.
Once we do decide on an event I saw we promote the hell out of it.
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Post by cross on Aug 3, 2015 17:38:20 GMT -5
The one year later idea would be perfect for me actually
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Post by ericthepilot on Aug 3, 2015 18:27:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I think a One Year Later kind of thing could be a lot of fun, gives writers a chance to change some things around, and you'd even have a chance to seed some of it into whatever issues remain before the jump so they don't come totally out of the blue and seem like change for change sake.
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Post by adrini on Aug 3, 2015 18:34:56 GMT -5
Okay, so DOB is here (he's on tv duty) and he had two thoughts.
1. Drakem him and I are not in a place right now to jump a year. Nothing personal, we're just in the middle of something.
2. It's super easy to jump a year. Start a chapter with "one year later". You could also do "six months later", or "later that summer". That was always on the table. Unless you're working with someone (and thus timetables become important) it can be fudged.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 19:37:17 GMT -5
Well I certainly wasn't implying it was an initiative that needed to happen right away. Nor does every single title need to participate once it starts. I just think it's a more practical alternative to a total reboot to help encourage new writers to join.
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Post by adrini on Aug 3, 2015 19:39:52 GMT -5
I can see that.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 3, 2015 20:04:31 GMT -5
Just to make thing one thing completely clear, if we did do a reboot, we would NOT be canceling the old universe, just opening a new one for people to play with.
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Post by Drake on Aug 3, 2015 20:32:05 GMT -5
Just to make thing one thing completely clear, if we did do a reboot, we would NOT be canceling the old universe, just opening a new one for people to play with. Actually, that's not a bad idea. Handle things in a very classic DC, Earth-2 way.
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Post by cross on Aug 3, 2015 20:56:25 GMT -5
Earth-2?
Comics boner achieved!
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 3, 2015 21:07:33 GMT -5
Technically we'd be on Earth-3, or maybe Universe 3 depending on naming convention.
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Post by cross on Aug 4, 2015 18:41:31 GMT -5
I think a lot of new readers and writers (heck, even long time writers) would love the universe info topics to be updated. I realize that this means more work for DoB which is not what I want on him but these are tools for readers and writers and they aren't being used due to being out of date or out of continuity. This is another one of those we need a site that we are fully in control of issues.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 4, 2015 20:19:15 GMT -5
I think a lot of new readers and writers (heck, even long time writers) would love the universe info topics to be updated. I realize that this means more work for DoB which is not what I want on him but these are tools for readers and writers and they aren't being used due to being out of date or out of continuity. This is another one of those we need a site that we are fully in control of issues. I could REALLY use some help with cataloging that information from both before and after the last reboot.
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Post by cross on Aug 4, 2015 20:29:52 GMT -5
I am all for helping with anything you need. I can't help with anything before the reboot though. Haven't read any of it.
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Post by Drake on Aug 6, 2015 19:35:52 GMT -5
Just an idea for something that would help everyone, there should be no inherent restrictions on time travel, AUs, etc. other than "don't screw anyone over." I've kind of been gentle about this before, but I know of multiple people who haven't committed to this site because they don't like how it's run, mostly in relation to continuity and freedom. Authors should be allowed to tell their stories. I guarantee the site will be FAR more attractive to prospective writers if we're seen as inclusive rather than exclusive. Appearance is one thing, but if the content (in this case, the rules and regulations) are attractive then more people will come.
I know for a fact that All Star's membership has been at its highest since we stopped any regulation of titles beyond the obvious "don't screw others over." It just works. Of course, there has to be a larger, more superficial clean up or launch to push the site into a new era before the change in regulation will really take effect.
That's my two cents. You can disagree. I just firmly believe that more people will come and better stories will be told if we don't regulate titles in nearly any fashion.
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Post by adrini on Aug 6, 2015 20:06:26 GMT -5
The big thing I wanted was to have big "screw over worthy" things cleared before committed. Yes, that means run by people who might be effected. If I recall correctly most people where cool with that, but one or two hated ANY need to clear ANYTHING with ANYONE.
If someone feels that way they really are better off making their own site or going to fanfiction. This is a group effort, that isn't going to change.
Time travel I have ideas about, handeled well that *might* be okay.
The AU I do disagree on. The key issue is claims, if I'm writing...Howard the Duck having another one on the same site is undermining. Period. I wouldn't accept less then use with permission, and only with permission.
Though, and I've said this before, right now all these seems academic. We're missing major people. Key members. AU's and timelines really need to come when we at least have major points covered. It's like asking for a new silk coat when you haven't eaten that day. It comes later.
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Post by cross on Aug 6, 2015 20:08:09 GMT -5
I agree with you 100% on the don't screw anyone over rule for time travel.
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Post by Drake on Aug 6, 2015 20:16:54 GMT -5
The "don't screw anyone over" rule implies (if not explicitly states....I don't remember in All Star's case) that you contact someone if it directly effects them. For example, IronGuy pm'd me about a Spidey cameo in his Iron Man issue. I approved, no problem, but it was still good he contacted me and didn't leave me to discover it for myself. Hell, originally he was going to use one of my villains, but I informed him I didn't have any available (for a variety of reasons) so we compromised by having him claim Blizzard. It's that simple, really. That's what I mean by "don't screw anyone over."
As for AUs, if it's still collaborative and a different take then I don't see a problem with it. I agree we shouldn't let people claim stuff willy nilly (I can't believe I just typed that XD) but there shouldn't be superficial, inherent restrictions. It doesn't matter what these sites are "for." Restricting writers is never a good idea. In my experience, people tend to want to be collaborative anyway. However, giving them the option to do something completely unique and different can go a thousand miles in making someone appreciate and love a site.
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